Tuesday, November 21, 2017

Syrian Victory: "....the U.S. has lost all credibility in the region outside of Riyadh and Tel Aviv" 

Putin Greets Assad in Sochi, Russia
on the Occasion of their Victory
in Saving the Syrian State

"Whatever happens after this the U.S. has lost all credibility in the region outside of Riyadh and Tel Aviv" 

....and, unfortunately...Ottawa

Robin Westenra of "Seemorerocks" has published two videos and an excellent summation written by Tom Luongo of the Syrian Victory by Putin, Assad and their Middle East allies that I believe captures this momentous event in such a way that it needs to be copied in full and shared as widely as possible.  I am going to have comments to follow..... after readers have had a chance to read history as it recently unfolded:

the End of US Dominance in the Middle East
Whatever happens after this the U.S. has lost all credibility in the region outside of Riyadh and Tel Aviv 

Tom Luongo

Russia Insider
21 November, 2017

I’m not a terribly religious man. But, I’d like to believe there is a special corner in Hell reserved for those that fomented the Syrian Civil War.

From its beginnings in Libya with gun-funneling through the U.S. embassy in Benghazi to yesterday’s meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, this entire affair will be remembered as one of the most cynical and abusive periods of history.
The Syrian ‘Civil War’ was meant to be the crowning achievement of U.S./Israeli/Saudi policy in the Middle East, the apotheosis of neoconservatism.
Had it succeeded it would have transformed the world into a living hell governed by the likes of Hillary Clinton, George Soros, Angela Merkel and the U.S./U.K. banking cartel.
Syria was to be the wedge that blew open not only the Middle East but Central Asia as well. It would stop the resurgence of Russia as a world power, subjugate Europe to an endless nightmare of forced cultural assimilation and completed bankrupting the United States to bring it in line with the a failing European integration project.
Supranational treaties like the TPP, TTIP and the Paris Accord were designed to create a superstructure that would supplant national sovereignty without any input from the people who were most affected by it.
Putin’s Turning Point
With Vladimir Putin’s pivotal speech at the United Nations on September 28th, 2015, opposition to this vision was expressed in the most forceful, and frankly, humanist terms one could imagine. I’m going to remind you of the most important passage as it relates to Syria.
"...In these circumstances, it is hypocritical and irresponsible to make loud declarations about the threat of international terrorism while turning a blind eye to the channels of financing and supporting terrorists, including the process of trafficking and illicit trade in oil and arms. It would be equally irresponsible to try to manipulate extremist groups and place them at one’s service in order to achieve one’s own political goals in the hope of later dealing with them or, in other words, liquidating them.
To those who do so, I would like to say — dear sirs, no doubt you are dealing with rough and cruel people, but they’re in no way primitive or silly. They are just as clever as you are, and you never know who is manipulating whom. And the recent data on arms transferred to this most moderate opposition is the best proof of it.
We believe that any attempts to play games with terrorists, let alone to arm them, are not just short-sighted, but fire hazardous (ph). This may result in the global terrorist threat increasing dramatically and engulfing new regions, especially given that Islamic State camps train militants from many countries, including the European countries..."

In truth, the whole speech is worth revisiting. It is a stark reminder that Putin, normally very reserved in his words, laid all of his cards on the table and directly accused the United States of declaring war on the world.
And within 48 hours Sukhois were flying over Syria, bombing targets opposed to Syria’s government, allowing one military victory after another for the beleaguered Syrian Arab Army. Shortly thereafter a coalition formed around Assad’s government including Iran’s Republican Guard, Hezbollah’s military wing and China’s tacit financial and moral support.
Putin told everyone, “Enough is enough” at the U.N. Then he backed up his words with actions. War is always regrettable. It is almost never justified. But, when faced with an implacable enemy, there was little else to be done.
And I submit that the neoconservative forces driving the anti-Assad policy decisions are that implacable enemy.
The End of ‘Assad Must Go’
That action began the process of unraveling the carefully constructed narrative that was the Syrian Civil War.
But, enough history.
Yesterday Putin introduced Assad to the military commanders who are most responsible for the stabilization of his country. Syria as a political unit has survived.
Saudi Arabia’s old guard are imprisoned, impoverished and losing influence around the world by the minute. Israel’s neoconservative government, led by madman Benjamin Netanyahu, is fulminating impotently at the turn of events, and, of course, ISIS has all but been wiped out in both Syria and Iraq.
The U.S. continues to talk out of both sides of its mouth, allowing some ISIS members cover to escape to be used again another day, presumably against Iran and/or Lebanon, while taking credit for ISIS’s collapse and the capture of Raqqa.
This reflects the deep-seated issues within the vast U.S. diplomatic, military and intelligence communities and the difficulties President Trump is having bringing these disparate groups to heel while not appearing weak and ineffectual.
You need only look at the odd event over the weekend of military helicopters landing at the CIA’s headquarters at Quantico to know that, at a minimum, there is an internal war occurring within the U.S. government.
The best explanation I’ve heard (and this is by no means a corroborated fact) is that the U.S. military put on a show of force against Obama administration hold-overs in the CIA still operating its terrorist proxies in Syria. And that these operations are in direct conflict with U.S. military goals there.
If that is the case then Putin is right to simply ignore the Americans and move policy talks forward at an accelerated rate, ignoring the talks in Geneva and giving Assad all the support he needs to continue on as Syria’s leader, if that is what the Syrian people want.
Given Assad’s open support of his military and the way the war against ISIS and other separatist groups was led by Syrian forces on the ground, there is little doubt that Assad will win that support in any upcoming elections.
Putin Won’t Gloat
The big question is, however, what price will be extracted from the U.S. for their part in all of this. Putin will not put Trump in a bad position. The loss of face for the U.S. has already occurred internationally.
The Obama administration’s complicity in this sorry chapter of Middle East history has been mostly laid base for anyone with eyes open enough to see.
Putin will offer Trump a way to save face for the U.S. while laying all the blame on Obama, Clinton, McCain and the rest of them. If you don’t think this ties into Robert Mueller’s ‘Russia-Gate’ investigation run amok, you aren’t paying attention.
Mueller is trying to desperately save everyone implicated here from treason charges. But, I expect, everything about the U.S. political scene is about to change radically. Once Judge Roy Moore enters the Senate (the odds of that not happening are close to zero), Trump has an impeachment-proof majority in the House and the Senate and can shut down Mueller or get him to play ball.
Trump has the opportunity to play peace-maker here. He can solidify his position as the handler of Saudi Arabia’s and Israel’s worst actors and keep them on a short leash.
In fact, one could make a credible argument that is what the purge in Saudi Arabia was all about. Mohammed bin Salman’s counter-coup was done with Trump’s blessing.
Putin can act similarly to allay suspicions of Iran’s and Hezbollah’s intentions. He can also restrain Assad from retaliating against his enemies, though rightly deserved, in order to build a lasting peace. And once the talks are over and the threat of Kurdish independence is over, Turkey will withdraw its troops from Syria.
Putin is set to call Trump later today to update him on what comes next. It’s obvious that the two have been in contact about how things are progressing in Syria. And, Trump, for his part has smartly left the clean-up work to Putin while he deals with his domestic neoconservative problems.
Whatever happens after this — framework for long-term peace or an uneasy ceasefire with Russia playing the go-between for the time being — the U.S. has lost all credibility in the region outside of Riyadh and Tel Aviv.
And we have no one to blame except ourselves.
Source: Gold, Goats and Guns
Putin has destroyed 10 years old U.S. plan for Syria!Whole Syrian conflict in 11 minutes!

Russia's War for Syria
...and the Rule of International Law...
told in 11 minutes

greencrow comments:  It has been a very long time since those of us who have grown up in the West, post JFK assassination and particularly post 9/11 coup/atrocity, have witnessed a just victory...or really, any victory.  Those who occupy the West...who the Russians call "Atlanticists" don't really strive for victory.  They strive for control through chaos and destruction.  This is what we've seen in country after country, decade after decade for most of the past century since the end of WWII.

If the West has been fighting for chaos, destruction and the end of the rule of International Law...to be replaced by the "Law of the Jungle" and "survival of the fittest" Neanderthal savagery, what has Putin been fighting for?  Clearly, the polar opposite.  Putin, the lawyer who specialized in International Agreements and Negotiation, has always had the Rule of Law as his guiding beacon of light.  This is his moral foundation...and he was fighting to preserve it above all other considerations.

The thing that escapes most people in the West is that by fighting for the rule of International Law and its instrument and institution...The United Nations... Putin was fighting for all humanity...and for planet earth itself.  Watch the first video in the link above...watch it right to the end and read Putin's words to Assad during their historic meeting on Tuesday that are in the subtitles.  The last thing that Putin tells Assad is that it will be up to the United Nations to decide the peace terms ending the Syrian conflict.  

Why will the United Nations be able to do that?  Because Putin preserved that right by saving Syria.  This does not mean that there won't be a "dead cat bounce" from the Satanic forces he was (and is) fighting against.  IMO, there are some particularly treacherous times ahead.  But, as I started out by saying....it has been a long time since those of us who believe in Peace, Order and Good Government...and the Rule of Law have seen or tasted victory.  So long, it's hard to believe it has really happened.  So long in fact, we're afraid to savour it...to reach out and touch it....afraid it might evaporate and disappear into the fog of war again.  Only time will convince us to hope that such a miracle could happen.  


Anonymous said...

That video reminds me of US liberating Iraq.
I wanted to sign up and be a soldier.
Looked like a fun propaganda video,i want to fly a plane now and drop bombs.
It looks liberating.
The best part,all the flag waivers.
Did the Russian people wave flags also??
Did they celebrate there victory and rally together??
Reminds me when everyone started waiving flags and singing the anthem at sports arenas.
There is no victory.
This will continue
He sold them missile defense gadgets to protect his planes?
Great video
I want to sign up
It looks fun being a hero
I hear under that bombing,like all bombings
innocent people must die
Where do I sign up
Being a psychopath wearing a uniform looks fun and legal
I thought Amerika did the same thing in there war??

greencrow said...

Yes, when you're on the losing side...the jingoism does grate and stick in the craw.

Funny, I recognized it for what it was...deliberate copying of Mockingbird style "journalism" of the west...but I perversely enjoyed watching it...knowing how it would pi$$ off the CIA Satanists in the We$t.

Anonymous said...

Thank god I am on neither side
Did not kick me in the craw and hurt
I was watching dejavu and said,gee
Amerika did the same selling points
Was the Russian people waiving there flags and singing the anthem louder at sports events????
So,that is why they war
It is a feel good moment
Not for me
Never was and never will be
Those planes do look koool
Tooo bad they are tainted with blood and innocent people dying

Ed(itor) said...

I was going to send this to you but I knew you'd find it.

greencrow said...

"....Those planes do look koool
Tooo bad they are tainted with blood and innocent people dying..."

Now we're getting into the dense philosophical argument over whether their can be a "just" war. Just when I was concluding that there was no such thing...Putin proved me wrong. IMO, the Syrian/Russian/Iranian/Hezbollah response to the proxy terrorist ISIS invasion is one of the very few just wars fought (and won) in my lifetime.

SingingSam said...

I think the philosophical question can be resolved by recognizing that the Syrian/Russian/Iranian/Hezbollah response is a just defense. The war that was launched by the satanic alliance was and is unjust. It is possible for a defense to be just. I have yet to see the initiation of a war that was just.

Whether the victory is total remains to be seen. Turkish and U.S. boots remain uninvited on Syrian soil, and Syria is not completely sovereign over its airspace.

greencrow said...

Hi SingingSam:

"...the philosophical question can be resolved by recognizing that the Syrian/Russian/Iranian/Hezbollah response is a just defense..."

Yes, you have solved the philosophical question....only a war of defense is a just war...and that's what the Syrian War was. I do believe that Bashar al Assad will be true to his word and not say that the war is over until every square inch of Syrian territory is returned to the legitimate government. Personally, I believe he is itching to get at the American bases. It is Putin who is holding him back in favour of a negotiated settlement.